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By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:54:13 +0000

Ed Young is at Second Baptist in Houston.

By: Foolish Sage

Foolish Sage — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:29:04 +0000

Geof:

I thought he already was a Methodist? Isn’t his dad’s church Methodist?

If so, and he doesn’t know it, I’d say he’s applied too much Wesley’s medicine according to Beau.

By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:05:56 +0000

So Mark, does that make Cliff Young a Methodist who doesn’t know it?

By: Beau in NC

Beau in NC — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:32:57 +0000

Since you are bringing Wesley into the study, it should be noted that he prescribed a short brandy after preaching, just to steady the nerves. The sources do specify whether he put the brandy in coffee, now whether he limited this to the clergy, or extended it to include the laity.
Personally, I’m a lactolapsarian, having once used milk, but not any more.

By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:42:16 +0000

I had actually read that at some point in my life. Thanks for satisfying my quirky curiosity and refreshing my memory.

GFM <– always glad that none of the Reformed Scrabblers use him for a teething ring

By: Mark Traphagen

Mark Traphagen — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:26:34 +0000

From John Wesley’s Primitive Physick
or An Easy and Natural Method of Curing Most Diseases

“10. Coffee and tea are extremely hurtful to persons who have weak nerves.”

By: Geof F. Morris

Geof F. Morris — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:21:14 +0000

John: Holy crap, man. I bet John Wesley hated coffee. What is a conflicted Methodist to do?!

[Wait, I already said that I was an alactarian.]

By: Mark Traphagen

Mark Traphagen — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:54:25 +0000

Now, Ros, someone as experienced in the world of theological nomenclature as you ought to know that such terms often are assigned or have taken on meanings at odds with their etymologies.

Is dispensationalism really primarily about dispensations? It is hardly that theologies distinguishing characteristic, as covenant theologians speak of dispensations as well. Is eschatology really about French snails? No one really thinks so.

So we must accept the foundational lactarian terminology as the Westminster (seminary) Divines intended them.

By: ros

ros — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:54:20 +0000

It’s fascinating to see that the church on this side of the Atlantic is finally catching up with the debate. As an undergraduate in England 15 years ago, I remember clearly having this discussion and then, as now, being utterly persuaded by the pre-lactarian position. This is unquestionably the only correct way to drink tea, which is of itself, clearly the superior hot beverage.

I’m surprised, however, that no-one has yet commented on the idiosyncratic way Dr Enns used the terminology. ‘Pre-lactarian’ is more usually the term given to the doctrine of putting the tea (or coffee, if you must) in before, i.e. ‘pre’ the milk; not of putting the milk itself in first. And conversely, ‘post-lactarians’ add the hot beverage after, i.e. ‘post’ milk.

With this correction to the terminology in place, I wholeheartedly support Dr Enns’ position, not merely on hygiene grounds but also on those of taste.